FairMind,
You are welcome. We come here to share. It has been awhile, but I do plan to get the rest of the numbers.
Triple A
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is it my imagination.... or did the numbers of "annointed" partaking in the lords evening meal go up by 5 people this year?.
what explanation can make any sense at all about this?
FairMind,
You are welcome. We come here to share. It has been awhile, but I do plan to get the rest of the numbers.
Triple A
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is it my imagination.... or did the numbers of "annointed" partaking in the lords evening meal go up by 5 people this year?.
what explanation can make any sense at all about this?
Hope this comes through, it is a table that I started. It is not complete as you can see.
Memorial Partakers:
Year | Partakers | Year | Partakers | Year | Partakers | Year | Partakers | |||
1924 | 1945 | 22,328 | 1966 | 11,179 | 1987 | 8,808 | ||||
1925 | 1946 | 1967 | 10,981 | 1988 | 8,685 | |||||
1926 | 1947 | 1968 | 10,619 | 1989 | 8,693 | |||||
1927 | 1948 | 25,395 | 1969 | 10,368 | 1990 | 8,869 | ||||
1928 | 1949 | 1970 | 10,526 | 1991 | 8,850 | |||||
1929 | 1950 | 22,723 | 1971 | 10,384 | 1992 | 8,683 | ||||
1930 | 1951 | 1972 | 10,384 | 1993 | 8,693 | |||||
1931 | 1952 | 1973 | 10,523 | 1994 | 8,617 | |||||
1932 | 1953 | 1974 | 10,723 | 1995 | 8,645 | |||||
1933 | 1954 | 1975 | 10,550 | 1996 | 8,757 | |||||
1934 | 1955 | 16,815 | 1976 | 10,187 | 1997 | 8,795 | ||||
1935 | 52,465 | 1956 | 16,302 | 1977 | 10,080 | 1998 | 8,756 | |||
1936 | 1957 | 1978 | 9,762 | 1999 | 8,755 | |||||
1937 | 1958 | 1979 | 9,727 | 2000 | 8,661 | |||||
1938 | 39,225 | 1959 | 1980 | 9,564 | 2001 | 8,730 | ||||
1939 | 1960 | 13,911 | 1981 | 9,601 | 2002 | 8,760 | ||||
1940 | 1961 | 13,284 | 1982 | 9,529 | 2003 | 8,565 | ||||
1941 | 1962 | 12,714 | 1983 | 9,292 | 2004 | 8,570 | ||||
1942 | 1963 | 12,292 | 1984 | 9,081 | ||||||
1943 | 1964 | 11,953 | 1985 | 9,051 | ||||||
1944 | 1965 | 11,550 | 1986 | 8,927 |
it should be most interesting.
1 out of 3 in my actual congregation has a heavy drinking problem.
i'd say that's the 'sin' that is way, way overlooked by the wtbts.
If the WTBTS decided to disfellowship based on excess alcohol consumption, they'd let go 1/3 of its members. No doubt in my mind about it!
Are you talking about the 1/3 of the Angel who fall in Revelation? It might be a new sign that the end is near
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i am originally from the fort worth/grand prairie area....just curious as to where others have come from?
Born and raised in Pennsylvania. Lived in San Diego County since 1972, except for two years in Florida.
this has always puzzled me.....can anyone shed some light as to what it really was?
Here is a link to Jehovah's Witnesses and the Cross Sarah J. Roberts (fifth year doctoral student in linguistics at Stanford University).
my wife has been a jw for about 10 years (we have been married 15 years).
over the years i have tried various strategies to deal with this, which i won't go into here...except that i have agreed to "read the bible" with my wife...and i get to pick the translation.. what translation would be best recommended to help highlight the errors of the nwt and jw thinking in general?
i have seen here that today's english version has been recommended...anything else?
I just don't think that the NIV is the best representation of what the words actually mean when put together.
Why Georgia,
Why do you feel that the NIV is not the best representation of the words actually mean when put together?
What Bible do you feel is?
Triple A
this has always puzzled me.....can anyone shed some light as to what it really was?
Welcome ZealofJehu,
Hope you enjoy posting on JWD.
I think you are right as to one of the reasons the WTS uses the stake. It is like their flag pole to rally around.
Triple A
this has always puzzled me.....can anyone shed some light as to what it really was?
IMO the discussion of Cross or Stake is exactly what Rutherford and those that followed wanted. The debate pulls us away from what really took place on the tree (is that politically correct or what). Jesus died as a substitute for you and me. He was resurrected so that we could share in ever lasting life. That is what is truely important.
But I must admit, that I love the theological debate. It does stimulate ones thinking.
this has always puzzled me.....can anyone shed some light as to what it really was?
Why couldn't God tell Moses to make an Asherah pole?
God can do anything that He wants to. But in Numbers Moses was doing what God told him to do and there was no reference to worship and/or the Asherah Pole. 2 Kings 18 deals with corrupted worship and how the people, not Moses, put the snake on the Asherah Pole.
The Life Application Bible that I use says this about 2 Kings 18:4. The bronze snake had been made to cure the Israelites of the bit of venoumous snakes (Numbers 21:4-9). It demonstrated God's presence and power and reminded the people of his mercy and forgiveness. But it had become an object of worship instead of a reminder of whom to worship, so Hezekiah was forced to destroy it. We must be careful that aids to our worship don't become objects of worship themselves. Most objects are not made to be idols - they become idols by the way people use them.
Although 2 Kings discribes what happened in the Isrealites worship it does not relate to what John was talking about in John 3:14-16. 14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life. [ e ]
16 ?For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, [ f ] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.The connection with 2 Kings 18 is not a valid relationship.
The reference in John is belief and the reference in Numbers is belief. The reference in 2 Kings is corrupted worship. 2 Kings is not related to the context of John 3. To tie 2 Kings to what John was talking about is not a correct textual relationship.
this has always puzzled me.....can anyone shed some light as to what it really was?
Are you saying that God directed Moses to put the snake on the Asherah Pole in Numbers.
I agree that 2 Kings 18:4 says the Asherah Pole. What I disagree with is that you say Moses put it there and at God's direction. The text here is talking about those that have corrupted worship, which would mean that they corrupted what Moses had done.
The Septuagint published by Hendrickson Publishers, the pole is translated signal-staff in Numbers 21:8-9. I do not claim to be a Greek or Hebrew Scholar.
Triple A